tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post7619933224706236203..comments2023-10-30T19:20:15.471+08:00Comments on desirable audio boutique 欲望:音响: Never Give Up!maggielurva 愛美姬http://www.blogger.com/profile/14547223575199060065noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-11602781601558423492009-05-13T09:34:00.000+08:002009-05-13T09:34:00.000+08:00David,
I need to know your setup so that
1. I ca...David,<br /><br />I need to know your setup so that <br />1. I can get a handle of what can be torqued and what can't<br />2. which item that will bring the maximum amount of improvement after torquing<br />3. what kind of torquing tightness is necessary for the hardware.<br /><br />I also need to know the tweaks that you use because I can know if it helps or will affect the performance of your system.<br /><br />When KC and I go torquing, we don't just torque for the sake of doing it. We have a way to torque and tweak your system and all this is done systematically. <br />If torquing is all that matters, all you need to do is just go buy a torque screwdriver and all the nuts etc to torque your hardware and be done with it.<br /><br />If you are interested, then pass me your email address and see where we go from there. If not, forget abt it.<br /><br />RegardsKennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-49394542976068675742009-05-12T23:21:00.000+08:002009-05-12T23:21:00.000+08:00Ken,does equipment make a difference when torque? ...Ken,does equipment make a difference when torque? U previously said all will give consistent result? Is it in god"s only hearing?David phannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-54800581780676797472009-05-12T13:52:00.000+08:002009-05-12T13:52:00.000+08:00Ken,
I also did heard some system in Singapore wi...Ken,<br /><br />I also did heard some system in Singapore without special room treatment and sound very nice too....<br /><br />Those owner with their seasoned ear, years of experience in that room,used some furniture alter the sound(intentionally or unintentionally) and very far from at least one wall's speaker placement to reduce the harmful strong early reflection ,and they able to get very good sound too..<br /><br />....but allow me to share my personal view, I also believe with their voicing skill they do able to get similar tonal balance,but even better resolution and wider sweet spot if used proper Hi-end Audiophile room treatment method (meaning absorption for lowest bass and diffusion on mid and high, similar to shift the system into a bigger untreated room)too,making full used of the better quality reflecting sound in room to improve micro dynamic...its different method for Home theater,entry level HiFi or mixing studio we use more absorption to reduce the lower quality sound reflection that affected the direct sound. <br /><br />And for those of us who too lazy or with less time, some room treatment do able to shorten the time to get what we want, LOL!<br /><br />Room treatment is a too long topic to discuss here, I will go KL again tomorrow night, do drop me a email at linyonghui@hotmail.com today if it's convenience to visit you.<br /><br />TQ.<br /><br />JoamonteJoamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-80440503633119583412009-05-12T11:47:00.000+08:002009-05-12T11:47:00.000+08:00Joamonte,
I almost do not have room treatment for...Joamonte,<br /><br />I almost do not have room treatment for my hifi. I have a curtain on one of the side walls. One can call that room treatment if they want.<br /><br />What I totally believe in apart from torquing is also the speaker placement. With correct speaker placement, you can eliminate or minimise bass boom. You can also enhance the soundstage in terms of size and also depth. You can also help to focus the vocalist mouth if you take time to play with speaker placement.<br /><br />YMMVKennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-10564635288164713972009-05-12T02:43:00.000+08:002009-05-12T02:43:00.000+08:00Ken,
No problem I can go at week day night...my e...Ken,<br /><br />No problem I can go at week day night...my email. linyonghui@hotmail.com , let's keep this off line.<br /><br />BTW, I think I disagree with you that most room tuning product is doing good job in controlling the bass , in fact I spend more than 3 years to find room treatment product that able to control bass below 100Hz, only until recently I found a way...<br /><br />You after right about most room treatment have too much absorbing on high and balance absorbing from high to low is the key, but IMHO the main problem of most room treatment product are unable to control low bass...you can look at the absorption co-efficiency of product from Real trap/RPG/ASC/Auralex...etc to check it up, some company like Echobuster/eight nerve..etc dont even dare to post their absorption co-efficiency....<br /><br />JoamonteJoamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-43421383816100657932009-05-11T14:33:00.000+08:002009-05-11T14:33:00.000+08:00Steven,
I think you need to read my post again.
...Steven,<br /><br />I think you need to read my post again. <br /><br />I did not say that it is bad to go into room treatment. I said that you have to be careful. The reason I say this is because you have to balance the sound that you want to get. Most room tunes does a good job in controlling the bass but they suck up a lot of the highs as well. That is why I said to be careful. <br />Do you know how much they pay to control the acousitcs in Dewan Philharmonik? I don't think any audiophile would have the capacity to do that in their own room.<br /><br />Joamonte,<br />Actually I have been travelling a lot lately. The weekend is the only time I can relax a bit. I may not even listen to music during those times but mainly to relax the mind before the start of the following hectic week. I would advise you to come with KC if both of you can make the time. Hope you understand.<br /><br />David,<br />Torque yr setup? What hardware do you have in your setup? Can you also tell me more abt yrself? like yr years in hifi.<br /><br />Regards.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-18204734298495271182009-05-10T01:48:00.000+08:002009-05-10T01:48:00.000+08:00Panzer, no worry....
I think I know who is the on...Panzer, no worry....<br /><br />I think I know who is the one that keep attacking me ... and I also already get used to it~~~this guy unable to argue with me in fact due not enough knowledge on this subject, so he have to keep personal attack in order to in-fame me.... <br /><br />But at least I put my name here... LOL!<br /><br />JoamonteJoamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-64930550046149177302009-05-09T22:41:00.000+08:002009-05-09T22:41:00.000+08:00Guys,
Give Joamonte a break, I think he meant wel...Guys,<br /><br />Give Joamonte a break, I think he meant well by offering an option.Panzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06238945931494674364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-45943636557925960602009-05-09T12:30:00.000+08:002009-05-09T12:30:00.000+08:00And if the real RPG is too expensive, the clone is...And if the real RPG is too expensive, the clone is good enough too...so clever ')Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-63834733009389099582009-05-09T02:18:00.000+08:002009-05-09T02:18:00.000+08:00Steven Tan,
I hope you read my post again, the 2 ...Steven Tan,<br /><br />I hope you read my post again, the 2 link I post is PAL and RPG Diffuser system, those are not my product.<br /><br />I am only suggesting PAL and RPG Diffuser system instead of Auralex (And Real Trap) absorbing system are more suitable for this type of Hi-end audio system...No disrespect to entry level equipment or mixing Studio, but different system need different Room Treatment concept. <br /><br />(I know Auralex start to make diffuser product last few years too, but compare to PAL and RPG those are not effective diffusing enough)<br /><br />And talk about Auralex room treatment, pls check my second reply, not only I have tried the Auralex product(far before Malaysia have Auralex Dealer), I even clone their Acoustic foam and sell in Singapore/Malaysia.<br /><br /><br />Ken,<br />If I am not wrong you are the Jeff Rowland 8 + ATC 100 guys? I tried to ask KC to give me your contact so to pay you a visit tomorrow when I visit KL, but KC told me you are not in Malaysia now....hope able to have a chance to pay you a visit to learn from you next month when I visit KL.<br /><br />Joamontejoamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-34692948624808965662009-05-08T22:33:00.000+08:002009-05-08T22:33:00.000+08:00Felix,
Yeah, sound improvements that may be obtai...Felix,<br /><br />Yeah, sound improvements that may be obtained by venturing in to room treatment. Never give up because also never satisfied, well at least not for long!<br /><br />Anonymous 4.38pm,<br /><br />Well, I very sure he knows about those things, he's just taking his time, letting the speakers run in and settle down in to his system. Like I said, it's an WIP system, that I'll look forward to re-visit.<br /><br />Ken,<br /><br />Regarding the room treatments, as all things in hifi, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Sounds familiar?Panzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06238945931494674364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-3093779102747233362009-05-08T19:31:00.000+08:002009-05-08T19:31:00.000+08:00Ken,agree withu.U are torque sifu.can help me torq...Ken,agree withu.U are torque sifu.can help me torque my hifi?David phannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-38404559237987787172009-05-08T18:35:00.000+08:002009-05-08T18:35:00.000+08:00Joamonte, it is not right for you to put down aura...Joamonte, it is not right for you to put down auralex or other brands, and promote your own. Have you used these products yourself? And what are the things you actually find lacking?<br /><br />Ken, do you imply that room tune is not necessary or even not good? Have you heard a properly tuned room? Have you been to the petronas philharmonic hall and experience the acoustic there? You will not get that kind of great result without the treatment.Steven Tannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-12312435798690302872009-05-07T15:55:00.000+08:002009-05-07T15:55:00.000+08:00Hi All,
I would advise those who are thinking of ...Hi All,<br /><br />I would advise those who are thinking of having room treatment to be very carefully before they venture towards it.Kennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-50013540909796456302009-05-06T16:38:00.000+08:002009-05-06T16:38:00.000+08:00I can't believe for an owner who's been tinkering ...I can't believe for an owner who's been tinkering into hi-fi for the past 30 years only realizes NOW that room treatments are a MUST.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-81546944927831791092009-05-05T12:16:00.000+08:002009-05-05T12:16:00.000+08:00Because there is always room to improve.Because there is always room to improve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-30819662912496085582009-05-05T11:58:00.000+08:002009-05-05T11:58:00.000+08:00Looks like a phenomenol sound system.
If it ain'...Looks like a phenomenol sound system. <br /><br />If it ain't broken, why fix it?Felixnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-66682960230697596782009-05-04T01:08:00.000+08:002009-05-04T01:08:00.000+08:00Well...in that case maybe I should "disclose that ...Well...in that case maybe I should "disclose that I am a reseller of Auralex clones,since 2006 too....<br /><br />http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=39131.0<br /><br />http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=48903.0<br /><br />Joamontejoamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-18645563575291317462009-05-03T23:24:00.000+08:002009-05-03T23:24:00.000+08:00Please disclose that you are a reseller of RPG clo...Please disclose that you are a reseller of RPG clones<br /><br />http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=61690.0<br /><br />Otherwise people think that you are neutral which is apparently notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-63575344923690523152009-05-03T22:45:00.000+08:002009-05-03T22:45:00.000+08:00hifikaki,
Don't worry, once the room treatment is...hifikaki,<br /><br />Don't worry, once the room treatment is underway, and with the system owner's blessing, we can go visiting again.<br /><br />Steven Tan,<br /><br />I know a few high enders, however most are very shy about allowing write ups and photos about their system. Their privacy, however, must be respected.<br /><br />Joamonte,<br /><br />He's already ordered them, not sure if he can do anything else at this stage. But if he is un happy with the results and wants to try other things, then I would certainly pass your contact to him.<br /><br />ML,<br /><br />Glad you enjoyed reading the article as much as I enjoyed visiting and writing about it.Panzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06238945931494674364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-13418314178024525502009-05-03T15:22:00.000+08:002009-05-03T15:22:00.000+08:00panzer,
great write up! enjoy the article!panzer,<br />great write up! enjoy the article!maggielurva 愛美姬https://www.blogger.com/profile/14547223575199060065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-746567823712648942009-05-03T00:33:00.000+08:002009-05-03T00:33:00.000+08:00panzer you very happy know a lot high grade hifi f...panzer you very happy know a lot high grade hifi friend chance we enjoy? steven tanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-70361196327440554572009-05-02T12:50:00.000+08:002009-05-02T12:50:00.000+08:00Auralex room treatment? are you kidding?? for entr...Auralex room treatment? are you kidding?? for entry level equipment or mixing Studio Auralex is ok, but for High End system like this, he should look for below. <br /><br />http://performanceacousticslabs.com/PAL/Home-Acoustics_Listening_Rooms.html<br /><br />http://www.rpginc.com/<br /><br />This system deserve better Room treatment...<br /><br />Can contact me at linyonghui@hotmail.com if the owner interested to have more proper treatment.Joamontenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-11943444555847462142009-05-02T11:36:00.000+08:002009-05-02T11:36:00.000+08:00panzer you very happy can know high grade hifi fri...panzer you very happy can know high grade hifi friend, chance can we enjoy?STEVEN TANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-54289528812337024562009-05-02T11:32:00.000+08:002009-05-02T11:32:00.000+08:00Panzer,
Wow, great stuff! To think that I had to ...Panzer,<br /><br />Wow, great stuff! To think that I had to give this visit a miss, awww...hifikakihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07444327721660925774noreply@blogger.com