tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post577377705768096114..comments2023-10-30T19:20:15.471+08:00Comments on desirable audio boutique 欲望:音响: How Much I Should Spend – Part IImaggielurva 愛美姬http://www.blogger.com/profile/14547223575199060065noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-31706827488708708022008-08-15T15:18:00.000+08:002008-08-15T15:18:00.000+08:00s.wufer,very well put!I think mature audiophiles,w...s.wufer,<BR/><BR/>very well put!<BR/><BR/>I think mature audiophiles,will not hesitate to spend on good stands{finite Elemente comes to my mind immediately]and cablings...<BR/><BR/> These sort of things are not 'status symbol' per se ,but in every good sounding systems,these are things that make the difference vbetween a good system and an excellent oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-22514126617307457952008-08-15T10:41:00.000+08:002008-08-15T10:41:00.000+08:00looking at all the comments, i think it's great it...looking at all the comments, i think it's great it stirs up the various views - my purpose is to get people to start thinking and see how many people have experimented with the different areas of the audio playback chain.<BR/><BR/>the intention is to make people be aware that the electronics are not necessarily the most dominant aspect of the playback chain although without it there is no playback system at all.<BR/><BR/>as i said in the end, do explore and i'm sure most of us would want limitless financial means to explore areas that appeal to us to our hearts content.<BR/><BR/>would like to clarify my thoughts on some aspects of the comments:<BR/><BR/>a) we should treat speaker stands as part of the loudspeaker category and not as a tweak. speaker stands are integral to the speakers performance and one advanatage of buying a floor stander is that you save the hassle (and purchase cost) of trying to optimise the speakers stands with a eg: bookshelf.<BR/><BR/>b) equipment stands + resonance type feet all falls under the "Supports" category and should be given at least as much attention as a regular electronic component as they do affect the final sound quality in a suprisingly huge way. Glad to see comments to support the importance of stands.<BR/><BR/>c) i lump power cords + conditioners all under "Electricity" category and again, I am glad there are some who advocate the importance of 'good' electricity. Should be given at least as much attention as any regular electronics.<BR/><BR/>d) I too find tweaking to be the last thing to do after the fundamentals are correctly in place - hence its significance is less than that of electronics, electricity, room, support, cables etc..<BR/><BR/>e) as for the room, we are creatures of comfort and hence it must first be comfortbale as part of a home. I don't necessarily recommend room tweaking/tuning but if you have no choice and have to live with a room that is less-than-complimentary, then some 'medication' may be considered. However, if the room is basically free from nasties, then you are indeed blessed.S. Wuferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08676319344591802466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-74652224357753574072008-08-14T21:31:00.000+08:002008-08-14T21:31:00.000+08:00it is always source first. But I spend most money ...it is always source first.<BR/><BR/> But I spend most money on preamp.that's the one than make or break a system.<BR/><BR/> speaker?Probably less that my sourceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-17206770381098407762008-08-14T20:47:00.000+08:002008-08-14T20:47:00.000+08:00of all the hardware,i would spend most on a good s...of all the hardware,i would spend most on a good source and the least on speakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-79760899866444335632008-08-14T17:34:00.000+08:002008-08-14T17:34:00.000+08:00well anonymous,I think your cost is fully justifia...well anonymous,I think your cost is fully justifiable.<BR/><BR/> The most important PC should be the one to your PLC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-78058639789928429712008-08-14T16:07:00.000+08:002008-08-14T16:07:00.000+08:00No matter how little money you wish to spend,you M...No matter how little money you wish to spend,you MUST have a dedicated curcuit, i prefer single to double cuircuit...<BR/><BR/> Receptacle,just get a decent grade,noneed to splash into the thousands..<BR/><BR/> The rest will be easy,I aso think that the concept of dedicated listening room is blasse....room tuning as propogated by the Hong kese and japanese seems more practical and acceptable if yopu know to do it well...JMHOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-27754287931107796722008-08-14T15:10:00.000+08:002008-08-14T15:10:00.000+08:00Once you control the resonance of your equipments,...Once you control the resonance of your equipments,the room become less important.<BR/><BR/> That is the biggest lesson I have learned ,and it was hard for me to accept..<BR/><BR/> So I say,spend more on stands,less on unnecassary room tweaks.Try to make your listening room more of a cosy place instead of a professional studio,that has a dead sound,with ugly cupboards sticked around...Psychoacoustics are just as importantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-76102487466815827612008-08-14T12:40:00.000+08:002008-08-14T12:40:00.000+08:00I seconded Chris motions. after more than 20 years...I seconded Chris motions.<BR/><BR/> after more than 20 years of DIY support ,i finally realized that you should leave it to the pro..<BR/><BR/>From the first moment I put my equipment on The finite Elemente Pagode stand,my jaws literally dropped......And I realized that everything that has been put on that damn thing sound so marvelous.....Nothing else come close to it IMHO.<BR/><BR/> The Harmonix,Symposium.Grand prix are the alternatives but I do feel each of them do add a bit of their sonic signitures...<BR/><BR/> And yeah,I agree,you should start with having a dedicated 20 amp cuircuit ,follow by stands and resonance controll....add the electronics last....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-49899473303636921812008-08-14T12:33:00.000+08:002008-08-14T12:33:00.000+08:00Fully agree with anonymous above.The most importan...Fully agree with anonymous above.<BR/><BR/>The most importance guidance in Hi-fi should be from someone who has achieved, to your ears ,the sound you desire..<BR/><BR/> Ask that person for the recipe ,you sure would be on your way to hi-fi bliss.They are many ways to reach a destination....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-26195786888058091992008-08-14T11:53:00.000+08:002008-08-14T11:53:00.000+08:00I think an IC should not cost more than any compon...I think an IC should not cost more than any component but then the power cord on my Hydra costs more than both my ICs, so how logical is that?<BR/>When it comes to spending money on hi-fi there should be no rules. The end justifies the means and at what cost should never be asked. I should not need to justify where or how I spend my money to anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-54494861945357346032008-08-14T10:11:00.000+08:002008-08-14T10:11:00.000+08:00tweaks to me is when you have to use a sthetoscope...tweaks to me is when you have to use a sthetoscope to hear the difference....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-63401581251721959532008-08-14T10:06:00.000+08:002008-08-14T10:06:00.000+08:00very controversial take on the subject IMO. While ...very controversial take on the subject IMO.<BR/><BR/> While I do agree with some of the points raised,I feel when it come tp tweaks I am rather sckeptics.<BR/><BR/>As mentioned by someone else.Ypou should start tweaking once everything is already in place.<BR/><BR/> And I agree good stand,receptacles and resonance type feet are not consider tweaks,there are truly an integral part of your equipments..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15183108.post-21780890001624845762008-08-13T19:59:00.000+08:002008-08-13T19:59:00.000+08:00I completely disagree with you there . To me,you m...I completely disagree with you there .<BR/><BR/> To me,you must start with the Power supply first,get the best dedicated curcuit money can buy.You want to do this once ,and you want to do it well.<BR/><BR/><BR/> Next,get the best stand money can buy.I use Finite elemente master reference and i can't believe the amount of money saved on unnecassary upgrades/tweaks...Get the best money can buy,nothing can kill the sound of your equipment more than bad stands..<BR/><BR/><BR/> use the rest of the money on your electronics.To me,most money is wasted on amp.If your budget is less than 10k[USD]get yourself the best intergrated.bad preamp is a receipe for disaster!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com